Shattered Rift: Brb.
rOllErcOAstEr397: k
Shattered Rift: Back.
rOllErcOAstEr397: =D
rOllErcOAstEr397: so how was your trip?
Shattered Rift: Long... boring... filled with squirrels...
Shattered Rift: Oh, and gasoline is EXTREMELY flammable.
rOllErcOAstEr397: XD
rOllErcOAstEr397: how did we find this out?
Shattered Rift: Okay, so my grandpa has a burn pile (since Idaho is all out in the middle of nowhere), and it was wet... and well, it didn't click in my mind that the gasoline might cause a small-scale explosion, let alone catch fire.
rOllErcOAstEr397: XD
Shattered Rift: Anyhow, the ends of a few hairs on my arm are no longer as bleached as they looked before, but ehn... gasoline is fun to play with.
rOllErcOAstEr397: XD
rOllErcOAstEr397: lol
rOllErcOAstEr397: sounds like fun XD
Shattered Rift: So, you got banned from IDB while I was gone?
rOllErcOAstEr397: yes
rOllErcOAstEr397: =D
rOllErcOAstEr397: more time for working on pets =D
Shattered Rift: XD!
Shattered Rift: I spent a... little bit of time working on that. I'm nearly through the end of my PHP book (and midway into the PHP and mySQL chappie!).
rOllErcOAstEr397: yay =D
rOllErcOAstEr397: understanding much?
Shattered Rift: For the time I read it, yes. Retaining it... well, let's just say I'm going to be using the book for a lot of reference, if not rereading most of it.
rOllErcOAstEr397: lol
rOllErcOAstEr397: of course
rOllErcOAstEr397: you always need a referance book...
rOllErcOAstEr397: infact, i have one on my lap right now XD
Shattered Rift: XD! .::Decides to go get his::.
Shattered Rift: Alright... I think the first thing we should do is set up the three "groups."
Shattered Rift: Since that'll be required for having Pets, and we need some Items to be generated by Pets.
rOllErcOAstEr397: *cough*
rOllErcOAstEr397: i've.. kinda... done that
rOllErcOAstEr397: XD
Shattered Rift: Kinda?
rOllErcOAstEr397: okay, so i have
rOllErcOAstEr397: lol
rOllErcOAstEr397: give me a few minutes, and i'll whip up a "change usergroup" item
Shattered Rift: .::Laughs::.
rOllErcOAstEr397: *cough*class item_petegg extends template {
var $name = "Pet Egg";
var $desc = "Create a new pet with this item";
rOllErcOAstEr397: *hides that*
Shattered Rift: That still doesn't solve what we're going to do with the three groups.
rOllErcOAstEr397: true...
rOllErcOAstEr397: but they exist =D
Shattered Rift: Heh.
Shattered Rift: So we're sticking with Omega Syndicate for your group?
rOllErcOAstEr397: i don't care
rOllErcOAstEr397: that was what we had at the time
rOllErcOAstEr397: XD
rOllErcOAstEr397: those have been there awhile
rOllErcOAstEr397: you can name what ever you feel =D
Shattered Rift: Uh, Aphotic is the one showing up in the Forum right now. I was just asking cause I like the sound of Phoenix Syndicate.
rOllErcOAstEr397: w/e works best in the forgotten plot of doom =D
Shattered Rift: XD!
Shattered Rift: I'm probably going to start over on it... well, on the first chappie. I can't rerail my train of thought, and a couple charries might be switched around. (Have we even heard anything from PD lately?)
rOllErcOAstEr397: PD...
rOllErcOAstEr397: has been busy
rOllErcOAstEr397: he has yearround school
rOllErcOAstEr397: so, sometimes, he's off, and sometimes, he's on
rOllErcOAstEr397: *in like 6 week/2week intervals*
Shattered Rift: Ah... and the deadww is showing up green for me, too.
rOllErcOAstEr397: how... odd :/
Shattered Rift: Anyhow...
rOllErcOAstEr397: did that fix it?
Shattered Rift: As things stand, we have one Item for each "group." IDB has a total of... six Items the Pets can generate? It's kind of a problem right now, if we went for a straight copy of IDB, but I worked with my version of the elemental system to get it to go around that (if we want to use mine).
Creation: Is the only one that generates Items... or at least, focuses on it.
Yes.
rOllErcOAstEr397: *darn spellings of grey, making me change it to gray*
Shattered Rift: XD!
Shattered Rift: Anyway... as I was saying.
rOllErcOAstEr397: We need to make an list of items, and effects
rOllErcOAstEr397: like, we have the base level items
Shattered Rift: It's going to take a while to think them up...
rOllErcOAstEr397: but we need to have... say 7? levels
Shattered Rift: That's... a lot.
rOllErcOAstEr397: true....
rOllErcOAstEr397: but, recall
rOllErcOAstEr397: that only members of each group will be able to buy them
rOllErcOAstEr397: so, it will only be 7 items for each person to choose from
Shattered Rift: Yes, but still... and I'm talking to a lot of people, so don't expect fast responses.
rOllErcOAstEr397: lol
rOllErcOAstEr397: okay
Shattered Rift: Let's see... we have Sparks, Silver Bullets, and Fangs...
Shattered Rift: We should post a thread in the Store Forum telling people to hoard the old versions that won't be around forever, ;p.
rOllErcOAstEr397: XD
Shattered Rift: Each Item should not be identical, but should be somewhat similar...
rOllErcOAstEr397: yea..
Shattered Rift: Bullets will require five Sparks to use (as Syndicate burns Sparks to use their Items)...
rOllErcOAstEr397: they have to focus on the idea behind the people
Shattered Rift: Way ahead of you, ;p.
rOllErcOAstEr397: lol
Shattered Rift: Brb a sec.
Shattered Rift: Back.
Shattered Rift: Fangs will... hmm...
Shattered Rift: Werewolves are the most effective group, and will have the most powerful Items, the most Items, and the weakest/easiest to use Items...
Shattered Rift: I think we should have Fangs and something else for their first two Items. Like... Rabbit's Foot or something as well.
Shattered Rift: Er... brb again.
rOllErcOAstEr397: k
Shattered Rift: Back.
rOllErcOAstEr397: i think... werewolfs are powerful, but they aren't good at defense... a wolf, with fangs, is a target for the syndicate
Shattered Rift: Grr... brb again a sex.
Shattered Rift: *sec
Shattered Rift: They need to move the "x" or "c" button...
rOllErcOAstEr397: XD
rOllErcOAstEr397: true...
Shattered Rift: Back.
rOllErcOAstEr397: k
rOllErcOAstEr397: i think we need to bump the sparks to be an item like the beam
rOllErcOAstEr397: not one in the plot
Shattered Rift: Eh?
Shattered Rift: You mean make Sparks into Tractor Beams?
rOllErcOAstEr397: the sparks (item) don't fit into the plot the way they are now... they should be canceled, and re-named, and made one of the public access items
Shattered Rift: True, the name was a problem...
rOllErcOAstEr397: (oh, should i make a post to the members saying, "Don't worry, we havn't forgot about the site, we're working on something topsecret, and you should/might see some of it up soon)
Shattered Rift: You should tell them to hoard the soon to be gone Items.
Shattered Rift: I don't think we should cancel Sparks, Fangs, or Bullets as they are, but make them collectables.
rOllErcOAstEr397: ah
Shattered Rift: I think I spelt that wrong... oh well.
rOllErcOAstEr397: hehehe XD
Shattered Rift: Anyhow...
rOllErcOAstEr397: wait
rOllErcOAstEr397: you make the post
rOllErcOAstEr397: so the members outside of shaft don't think you're dead
Shattered Rift: XD!
rOllErcOAstEr397: lol
Shattered Rift: The Sparks whatevers thing that was groups... get rid of that Forum. Once we have the usergroups, it will be more than the current Membership can handle.
rOllErcOAstEr397: yea...
rOllErcOAstEr397: okay
rOllErcOAstEr397: btw
rOllErcOAstEr397: i just found out
rOllErcOAstEr397: that there is an item to change usergroups
rOllErcOAstEr397: so, i'll add one for each of the groups... k?
Shattered Rift: Not yet.
Shattered Rift: Wait until we have something to give them.
rOllErcOAstEr397: i'll make them hidden
Shattered Rift: Right now what needs to be coded is the... hmm...
Shattered Rift: Lunar Ritual, Phoenix Contract (or Contract of the Phoenix), and I dunno what name I thought of for the Spectre one...
Shattered Rift: Offering to the Fallen.
Shattered Rift: Assuming that doesn't sound too... like, evil or whatever.
rOllErcOAstEr397: lol
rOllErcOAstEr397: k
Shattered Rift: We never released Sparks to the public, did we?
rOllErcOAstEr397: they are in beta
Shattered Rift: Alright.
Shattered Rift: Those ones will be scrapped, then. Or at least, probably scrapped.
rOllErcOAstEr397: which ones?
Shattered Rift: The Sparks that are in Beta.
rOllErcOAstEr397: oh, yes
rOllErcOAstEr397: those will become another item
rOllErcOAstEr397: because they don't fit into the other items
Shattered Rift: Ah.
Shattered Rift: Thread finally made.
rOllErcOAstEr397: =D
Shattered Rift: Queued topics means someone wasn't supposed to make a topic, right?
rOllErcOAstEr397: i dunno
rOllErcOAstEr397: i can't figure out how to get that thing off..
Shattered Rift: Heh.
Shattered Rift: Fangs should... hmm...
Shattered Rift: Bullets should be the most powerful of the base Items... Fangs second most powerful, and Ball of Light (for lack of a better name) will be the weakest... or second weakest, once we think of a second Werewolf Item.
Shattered Rift: Actually, Ball of Light should destroy between one to three Bullets.
Shattered Rift: That'd balance it out.
rOllErcOAstEr397: yes, it would
Shattered Rift: Bullets should strike to penalize 50.
rOllErcOAstEr397: 60
Shattered Rift: (Costing 35, by base, then 5 to use.)
Shattered Rift: 60 works.
rOllErcOAstEr397: as for fangs
rOllErcOAstEr397: how about
Shattered Rift: And Fangs should... hmm...
Shattered Rift: Stealing.
rOllErcOAstEr397: we make them
rOllErcOAstEr397: fine 100 when used on a spectre
Shattered Rift: Steal a Ball of Light, as well as a few Sparks!
Eh?
rOllErcOAstEr397: 50 when they hit anyone else
Shattered Rift: I thought it was just a triangle...
Shattered Rift: Oh yeah... smart Shattered... x.x...
rOllErcOAstEr397: XD
Shattered Rift: I think they should steal one of the Spectre Item, as well as 40 Sparks.
Shattered Rift: Possibly more Sparks...
Shattered Rift: I need to make this into a chart..
rOllErcOAstEr397: hold
rOllErcOAstEr397: **holdon
rOllErcOAstEr397: (yes, chart is good)
rOllErcOAstEr397: and...
rOllErcOAstEr397: we need to re-work inventories
Shattered Rift: Question 1: How? Question 2: Can we?
rOllErcOAstEr397: so that they show each item, rather than stock
rOllErcOAstEr397: i don't know...
Shattered Rift: Yes we do...
rOllErcOAstEr397: question 2: i don't know...
rOllErcOAstEr397: i'm gonna ask someone...
Shattered Rift: Heh.
Shattered Rift: You could always just finish the Portable Matrix, and then see if someone can use multiple of it without the system thinking it's using the same one each time.
rOllErcOAstEr397: i might have someone to do it
Shattered Rift: Let's hope so.
Shattered Rift: .::Thinks the abbreiv PS for Phoenix Syndicate looks odd, but ehn::.
rOllErcOAstEr397: (of course, i would have to take a bit of time off of working on the site to get him to do thing... i have to write a skin for a forum system of his)
Shattered Rift: 'tis worth it, seeing as it's something we need done.
rOllErcOAstEr397: yea
rOllErcOAstEr397: and tis something i don't know how to do
Shattered Rift: Crap... I just realized I exited out of this convo, and I need the stats we gave the Items. Repaste them, would you?
rOllErcOAstEr397: Shattered Rift: Fangs should... hmm...
Shattered Rift: Bullets should be the most powerful of the base Items... Fangs second most powerful, and Ball of Light (for lack of a better name) will be the weakest... or second weakest, once we think of a second Werewolf Item.
Shattered Rift: Actually, Ball of Light should destroy between one to three Bullets.
Shattered Rift: That'd balance it out.
rOllErcOAstEr397: yes, it would
Shattered Rift: Bullets should strike to penalize 50.
rOllErcOAstEr397: 60
Shattered Rift: (Costing 35, by base, then 5 to use.)
Shattered Rift: 60 works.
rOllErcOAstEr397: as for fangs
rOllErcOAstEr397: how about
Shattered Rift: And Fangs should... hmm...
Shattered Rift: Stealing.
rOllErcOAstEr397: we make them
rOllErcOAstEr397: fine 100 when used on a spectre
Shattered Rift: Steal a Ball of Light, as well as a few Sparks!
Eh?
rOllErcOAstEr397: 50 when they hit anyone else
Shattered Rift: I thought it was just a triangle...
Shattered Rift: Oh yeah... smart Shattered... x.x...
rOllErcOAstEr397: XD
Shattered Rift: I think they should steal one of the Spectre Item, as well as 40 Sparks.
Shattered Rift: Possibly more Sparks...
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rOllErcOAstEr397: Shattered Rift: Bullets should be the most powerful of the base Items... Fangs second most powerful, and Ball of Light (for lack of a better name) will be the weakest... or second weakest, once we think of a second Werewolf Item.
Shattered Rift: Actually, Ball of Light should destroy between one to three Bullets.
Shattered Rift: That'd balance it out.
rOllErcOAstEr397: yes, it would
Shattered Rift: Bullets should strike to penalize 50.
rOllErcOAstEr397: 60
Shattered Rift: (Costing 35, by base, then 5 to use.)
Shattered Rift: 60 works.
rOllErcOAstEr397: as for fangs
rOllErcOAstEr397: how about
Shattered Rift: And Fangs should... hmm...
Shattered Rift: Stealing.
rOllErcOAstEr397: we make them
rOllErcOAstEr397: fine 100 when used on a spectre
Shattered Rift: Steal a Ball of Light, as well as a few Sparks!
Eh?
rOllErcOAstEr397: 50 when they hit anyone else
Shattered Rift: I thought it was just a triangle...
Shattered Rift: Oh yeah... smart Shattered... x.x...
rOllErcOAstEr397: XD
Shattered Rift: I think they should steal one of the Spectre Item, as well as 40 Sparks.
Shattered Rift: Possibly more Sparks...
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rOllErcOAstEr397: Shattered Rift: Bullets should be the most powerful of the base Items... Fangs second most powerful, and Ball of Light (for lack of a better name) will be the weakest... or second weakest, once we think of a second Werewolf Item.
Shattered Rift: Actually, Ball of Light should destroy between one to three Bullets.
Shattered Rift: That'd balance it out.
rOllErcOAstEr397: yes, it would
Shattered Rift: Bullets should strike to penalize 50.
rOllErcOAstEr397: 60
Shattered Rift: (Costing 35, by base, then 5 to use.)
Shattered Rift: 60 works.
rOllErcOAstEr397: rOllErcOAstEr397: as for fangs
rOllErcOAstEr397: how about
Shattered Rift: And Fangs should... hmm...
Shattered Rift: Stealing.
rOllErcOAstEr397: we make them
rOllErcOAstEr397: fine 100 when used on a spectre
Shattered Rift: Steal a Ball of Light, as well as a few Sparks!
Eh?
rOllErcOAstEr397: 50 when they hit anyone else
Shattered Rift: I thought it was just a triangle...
Shattered Rift: Oh yeah... smart Shattered... x.x...
rOllErcOAstEr397: XD
Shattered Rift: I think they should steal one of the Spectre Item, as well as 40 Sparks.
Shattered Rift: Possibly more Sparks...
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rOllErcOAstEr397: rOllErcOAstEr397: as for fangs
rOllErcOAstEr397: how about
Shattered Rift: And Fangs should... hmm...
Shattered Rift: Stealing.
rOllErcOAstEr397: we make them
rOllErcOAstEr397: fine 100 when used on a spectre
Shattered Rift: Steal a Ball of Light, as well as a few Sparks!
Eh?
rOllErcOAstEr397: 50 when they hit anyone else
rOllErcOAstEr397: Shattered Rift: I thought it was just a triangle...
Shattered Rift: Oh yeah... smart Shattered... x.x...
rOllErcOAstEr397: XD
Shattered Rift: I think they should steal one of the Spectre Item, as well as 40 Sparks.
Shattered Rift: Possibly more Sparks...
Shattered Rift: And should usergroups be unable to hurt their own, or no? There are those that would want to... but... or should I just make it so the attack on normal users is the same as happens when used against their own?
rOllErcOAstEr397: i think...
rOllErcOAstEr397: hmm
rOllErcOAstEr397: bullets don't effect anyone but wolves and normal users
rOllErcOAstEr397: (normal users should have access to all items, lvs 1-3)
rOllErcOAstEr397: so
Shattered Rift: I thought we already decided normal users wouldn't?
rOllErcOAstEr397: we did?
rOllErcOAstEr397: oh
rOllErcOAstEr397: okay
Shattered Rift: We make a system that can be used by all, but we make it... encouraged... that people join a usergroup if they can.
Shattered Rift: Otherwise, normal users would have an insane level of safety. We don't want that.
rOllErcOAstEr397: thats why i thought keeping them down to the low levels was good
rOllErcOAstEr397: but i was thinking the items for the usergroups would be expensive, no?
Shattered Rift: Actually, not the weak ones.
Shattered Rift: We want the Items to be useable.
Shattered Rift: And once Pets start generating a few, they'll be in ready supply.
rOllErcOAstEr397: i mean
rOllErcOAstEr397: the items to change usergroups
rOllErcOAstEr397: like lunar ritual
rOllErcOAstEr397: and such
Shattered Rift: Oh... yes, something around... 200?
Shattered Rift: 300, maybe. No more than 400.
rOllErcOAstEr397: right now, i have syn at 300, wolves at 275, and humans at 290
Shattered Rift: Works.
Shattered Rift: Actually...
Shattered Rift: Syndicate should be cheapest.
rOllErcOAstEr397: i don't have a clue why i made the prices the way i did, i just didn't want them to have the same prices
Shattered Rift: And it's Spectres, not humans!
rOllErcOAstEr397: (i know, i know
)Shattered Rift: Syndicate should be cheapest, with Spectres most expensive.
rOllErcOAstEr397: XD
Shattered Rift: Hmm...
Shattered Rift: Level 1 Items need to be weaker...
rOllErcOAstEr397: yea
rOllErcOAstEr397: like the pocket sticky
Shattered Rift: No... not that weak..
Shattered Rift: Just...
Shattered Rift: Weaker than the numbers we threw out at each other.
rOllErcOAstEr397: remember, it is lv 1
Shattered Rift: None of them should destroy more than 70...
rOllErcOAstEr397: how many levels do we wnat?
rOllErcOAstEr397: **want
Shattered Rift: And that's max... we want one, for now. Three levels would probably make a decent system, as well as a... random Item or two thrown in (Werewolves will have variety by standard).
rOllErcOAstEr397: i was thinking ~5
rOllErcOAstEr397: (maybe give syn 4, and wolves 6)
Shattered Rift: Consider usability... making Level 1 as weak as Pocket Stickies would be pointless, and we're going to run out of ideas quickly. We want two Levels that are just easily useable (three to four Items for each between those two levels), then a couple uber-Items.
Shattered Rift: Portable Matrix will probably be one of the uber-Items... but we'll worry about balancing that out later, and leave it in the main Store for now.
rOllErcOAstEr397: pocket stickes aren't that week
rOllErcOAstEr397: **weak
rOllErcOAstEr397: they can steal thru protection at ~75%
Shattered Rift: They aren't cost effective, either...
Shattered Rift: That was my main problem with Stickyhands.
rOllErcOAstEr397: (okay, pocket stickies without fining)
Shattered Rift: They just left you more or less where you were.
Shattered Rift: Should the other Werewolf Item just be a weak stealer?
rOllErcOAstEr397: prolly
Shattered Rift: Hmm... that'll make two Werewolf stealers, though... .::Tries to balance things out::.
rOllErcOAstEr397: make fangs just a finer
Shattered Rift: Alright.
rOllErcOAstEr397: and the other item, a weak stealer
Shattered Rift: We need a name for it.
Shattered Rift: Rabbit's Foot?
rOllErcOAstEr397: then bullets... (oh, khaled pointed out, that you can do repeated attacks with them) so, we need to make them lower the fang count
rOllErcOAstEr397: umm
rOllErcOAstEr397: Wolf claw
Shattered Rift: Repeated attacks, o.O?
Shattered Rift: And would Werewolves really sacrifice their own to make... nevermind, I have a way that can work.
rOllErcOAstEr397: i have 5 fangs, someone hits me with bullets, i'm alot in the neg, and they can hit me that hard again, at the same cost
Shattered Rift: (Werewolves breed too quickly, and under present conditions, their carrying capacity would be too easily exceeded, so hence, they'll kill their own to make Items, XD!)
Ah...
Shattered Rift: So a finer fining Items needs to be limited.
Shattered Rift: I'm going with Wolf Nail for the weak Item. A Claw sounds... stronger.
rOllErcOAstEr397: good idea
rOllErcOAstEr397: we have 2 images of claws
rOllErcOAstEr397: werelupe claw necklace
Shattered Rift: What's the image Neo uses for the... erm.. other thing.
Shattered Rift: *?
rOllErcOAstEr397: and balthatzars claw
Shattered Rift: Erm... the other other thing?
Shattered Rift: The one that was in the HT, looked like a bracelet... was uber-cool... did fractionals...
Shattered Rift: Or was that Claw Necklace?
rOllErcOAstEr397: thats the werelupe claw necklace
rOllErcOAstEr397: they changed the name, if you recall
Shattered Rift: We use that for Nails, then.
rOllErcOAstEr397: no
Shattered Rift: Ah... I don't recall.
rOllErcOAstEr397: use the balthazars claw
rOllErcOAstEr397: the necklace is 2 claws
Shattered Rift: Ehn... Item piccies are your department.
rOllErcOAstEr397: the claw, is 1
rOllErcOAstEr397: lol
Shattered Rift: Aside from when I get picky and say we need new ones that more better look the part.
rOllErcOAstEr397: lol
Shattered Rift: Hmm... to prevent copying.. should Nails not be multi-use?
rOllErcOAstEr397: nails = breakable
rOllErcOAstEr397: but stay with the person who uses them
Shattered Rift: That makes them into Pocket Stickies...
Shattered Rift: Eh?
Shattered Rift: Nice.
rOllErcOAstEr397: and break often
Shattered Rift: So no fine rate?
rOllErcOAstEr397: no fine, but the steal attept can fail, and the item can break
rOllErcOAstEr397: (50% chance of doing that? after the item is used tho)
Shattered Rift: I say... hmm...
Shattered Rift: One use should work.
Shattered Rift: Second use 45% breakability.
Shattered Rift: Or 40%, not sure which.
rOllErcOAstEr397: it will always try to steal on a first use
rOllErcOAstEr397: (whether is succedes is not in the question)
rOllErcOAstEr397: it also, might get lost in the attempt
Shattered Rift: This is going to be difficult to type in Excel...
rOllErcOAstEr397: XD
Shattered Rift: .::Reopens NotePad::.
Shattered Rift: Chance of SUCCESS: 75%?
Shattered Rift: .::Thinks success is a better word to use than failure, though isn't sure why::.
Shattered Rift: .::Though wonders why he has Failure written in NotePad::.
rOllErcOAstEr397: lol
rOllErcOAstEr397: hmm
rOllErcOAstEr397: think we can base this around the current protection system?
Shattered Rift: No...
rOllErcOAstEr397: and possibly, make 2 or 3 more protection types
Shattered Rift: Being part of the new Groups makes you under them, though we'll have a Protection Item for each of them (since we need more Items).
rOllErcOAstEr397: errr
rOllErcOAstEr397: maybe have a type of protection that can only be used by a member of that user?
Shattered Rift: Didn't I just say that, o.o?
rOllErcOAstEr397: err
rOllErcOAstEr397: *rereads*
rOllErcOAstEr397: yea... you did
rOllErcOAstEr397: XD
rOllErcOAstEr397: i feel stupid
Shattered Rift: Only four-hundred ninety-nine more instances of that, and we'll be even, ;p.
rOllErcOAstEr397: lol
rOllErcOAstEr397: Problem just noticed:
Shattered Rift: So 25% failure rate of stealing?
Shattered Rift: Eh?
rOllErcOAstEr397: mods
rOllErcOAstEr397: we can't put them in another group
rOllErcOAstEr397: and keep them mods
Shattered Rift: Yes we can, ;p.
rOllErcOAstEr397: how so?
Shattered Rift: if $usergroup = $mod, SELECT * FROM ibf_members WHERE u_id = $self... erm...
rOllErcOAstEr397: lol
rOllErcOAstEr397: nvm
Shattered Rift: We assign a second variable to Mods and ourselves, and have the stuff check that.
rOllErcOAstEr397: i found a way to do it in the ACP
rOllErcOAstEr397: tis called "Over ride permissions mask"
Shattered Rift: Bad idea.
rOllErcOAstEr397: why?
rOllErcOAstEr397: all our code will be based off the acctual usergoup
Shattered Rift: Makes Mods able to use all Items, and also makes difficulties in the Pet Store, unless we use your version of the Egg idea.
rOllErcOAstEr397: no
Shattered Rift: I say we just assign a second variable to be checked, and have Mods and ourselves assigned that variable when we use the Change Usergroup Item.
rOllErcOAstEr397: they have the usergroup of everyone else
rOllErcOAstEr397: but have a permissions mask of a s-mod
Shattered Rift: Eh? Ah...
Shattered Rift: I still say we just assign the new variable.
rOllErcOAstEr397: lol
rOllErcOAstEr397: that would be hard...
rOllErcOAstEr397: trust me
Shattered Rift: No it wouldn't.
rOllErcOAstEr397: we don't have to edit code this way tho...
rOllErcOAstEr397: we do it the way IPB wants to
Shattered Rift: We have to add in one thing to each thing.
rOllErcOAstEr397: lol
rOllErcOAstEr397: rex just turned himself into a synd. member
Shattered Rift: XD! It's not hard to just add in another variable. Usergroup Changers check current usergroup, if it's Mod, Supermod, or Admin, it assigns a variable... eh?
rOllErcOAstEr397: *trys permisssions mask*
Shattered Rift: And after the variable is assigned, the Items check for a member of the usergroup, OR the proper variable.
rOllErcOAstEr397: hm
rOllErcOAstEr397: that could work
rOllErcOAstEr397: but lets check this first
Shattered Rift: XD!
Shattered Rift: We still need a way for us to be able to work... is the main problem. We don't want to get locked out of being Admins if something goes wrong. Having no Admins in a Forum is a bad thing, usually.
rOllErcOAstEr397: we won't join usergroups
rOllErcOAstEr397: but, we'll just make sure that admins can view everything
Shattered Rift: Ehn... that'll get confusing, though, ;p.
Shattered Rift: Oh well... we'll worry about it later. The point is that we can assign the variable if need be.
rOllErcOAstEr397: yea
Shattered Rift: Anyway... Wolf Nail steals 7-18, has a 25% chance of failure, and will break 40%-50% of the time after the first use. Sound good for its base stats? 45% would probably be good for breakability...
rOllErcOAstEr397: costs 10?
Shattered Rift: Yeah.
Shattered Rift: Does 7-18 seem like too much?
rOllErcOAstEr397: no
rOllErcOAstEr397: tis good
Shattered Rift: That's an average minimum of 14 stolen...
Shattered Rift: Between 14-36 on average... er... not average, but yeah.
Shattered Rift: 50% chance of it not making it twice in a row based on failure alone..
rOllErcOAstEr397: i figured it out!
Shattered Rift: Heh.
Shattered Rift: What'd you figure out?
rOllErcOAstEr397: i figured out how to do the mods/admins thing
Shattered Rift: XD!
Shattered Rift: How?
rOllErcOAstEr397: or rather, mods thing
rOllErcOAstEr397: IPB has a second usergroup option
Shattered Rift: I just say variable...
Shattered Rift: Eh?
Shattered Rift: So why won't it work for Admins?
rOllErcOAstEr397: mgroup_others
rOllErcOAstEr397: (cuz we want admins to have access to everything)
Shattered Rift: That's going to be annoying to code...
Shattered Rift: Actually... nevermind.
rOllErcOAstEr397: we just change what it looks for from mgroup to mgroup_others
Shattered Rift: We'll just change it so that if $usergroup = Admin have a three panel thingy to decide which usergroups place to go into for the Pets...
Shattered Rift: I'm getting confused now... so much thinking...
rOllErcOAstEr397: yea
Shattered Rift: Brb, dinner.
rOllErcOAstEr397: k
Shattered Rift is away at 7:02:35 PM.
Shattered Rift returned at 7:17:55 PM.
Shattered Rift: Back.
rOllErcOAstEr397: k
Shattered Rift: Nail does 10-25 against Spectres?
rOllErcOAstEr397: good
rOllErcOAstEr397: oh
rOllErcOAstEr397: another advantage to having the usergroups be on the mgroup_others
rOllErcOAstEr397: they are private =D
Shattered Rift: 5-14 against Syndicate?
You mean they don't show?
rOllErcOAstEr397: meaning, you don't know who is a synd/spectre/wolf
rOllErcOAstEr397: sure
Shattered Rift: Until you use an Item against them, ;p.
rOllErcOAstEr397: yep
rOllErcOAstEr397: and even then, you aren't certain
Shattered Rift: Either Marik, Jonah, or Deat will find out very quickly when they attack Rex.
Shattered Rift: True.
rOllErcOAstEr397: lol
Shattered Rift: Completion: 1 Item designed in concept.
rOllErcOAstEr397: =D
Shattered Rift: Now... on to the Silver Bullets.
Shattered Rift: All Items should have a chance of failure to balance them out, no?
Shattered Rift: Except maybe the Spectre Items, since they're generally weaker?
rOllErcOAstEr397: yea...
rOllErcOAstEr397: i suppose the bullets allways hitting... is kinda cheap
Shattered Rift: Yeah.
Shattered Rift: Cost: 30 Destroy: 50 Failure: 20%
How's that sound for base?
rOllErcOAstEr397: good
rOllErcOAstEr397: take 60 from wolves, with chance to destroy fangs
rOllErcOAstEr397: take 40 from spectres
Shattered Rift: Oh, and cost 5 to use?
rOllErcOAstEr397: 5 to use?
rOllErcOAstEr397: it is one use
Shattered Rift: Syndicate Items have a Spark cost when using.
rOllErcOAstEr397: oh...
Shattered Rift: That's why they're more powerful.
rOllErcOAstEr397: i see
rOllErcOAstEr397: okay
rOllErcOAstEr397: cost 5 to use
Shattered Rift: Hmm... they still seem uber-powerful...
rOllErcOAstEr397: not really
rOllErcOAstEr397: remember
rOllErcOAstEr397: they fine for fangs
rOllErcOAstEr397: right?
Shattered Rift: We started from scratch again. Should they fine for Fangs?
rOllErcOAstEr397: i think so
Shattered Rift: Destroying Fangs makes more sense...
Shattered Rift: We'll have the Level 2 Items bother with fining for Items.
rOllErcOAstEr397: destroy against wolves, fine aginst everyone else
rOllErcOAstEr397: oh
rOllErcOAstEr397: okay...
Shattered Rift: We'll keep this simple... for now.
rOllErcOAstEr397: k
Shattered Rift: So destroy 1 Fang if present?
Shattered Rift: Hmm... actually...
rOllErcOAstEr397: 2 against wolves
Shattered Rift: If it weren't so hard to code, having it destroy between Fangs and Nails randomly would be nice...
rOllErcOAstEr397: it won't be
Shattered Rift: It won't?
Shattered Rift: So destroy 1-3 Nails, OR 1 Fang?
rOllErcOAstEr397: WHERE i_id = 17{thats fangs} OR i_id = XX{nails}
rOllErcOAstEr397: wai
rOllErcOAstEr397: **wait...
Shattered Rift: Yeah...
Shattered Rift: Not that simple.
Shattered Rift: A nice four statements to check and destroy...
rOllErcOAstEr397: $fangsornails = mt_rand(1, 2);
if ($fangsornails == 1) {
$numofblah = mt_rand(1, 3);
} else {
$numofblah = 1;
}
$DB->query(DELETE FROM ibf_store_inventory WHERE i_id = {$
rOllErcOAstEr397: err
rOllErcOAstEr397: i wasn't done
Shattered Rift: I noticed.
rOllErcOAstEr397: pressed enter when i meant to do shift enter
Shattered Rift: But...
Shattered Rift: What I want to do is have it check for the Fangs or Nails first. If one is present and the other isn't, destroy accordingly. If both are present, randomly destroy.
rOllErcOAstEr397: $fangsornails = mt_rand(1, 2);
if ($fangsornails == 1) {
$numofblah = mt_rand(1, 3);
$i_id = *nails item id*;
} else {
$numofblah = 1;
$i_id = 17;
}
$DB->query("DELETE FROM ibf_store_inventory WHERE i_id = {$i_id} LIMIT {$numofblah}");
rOllErcOAstEr397: there
rOllErcOAstEr397: but...
Shattered Rift: Head hurt...
rOllErcOAstEr397: that code will be diferent than what you just suggested
Shattered Rift: Yeah, that was the problem...
Shattered Rift: I know we can randomly destroy either, but having it check...
rOllErcOAstEr397: *asks outlaw about coding the inventories to work that way*
rOllErcOAstEr397: *nvm that, he just signed off*
Shattered Rift: XD!
Shattered Rift: Oh well... we agree destroy 1-3 Nails or 1 Fang, right?
rOllErcOAstEr397: yea
Shattered Rift: We'll worry about coding it later.
rOllErcOAstEr397: lol
rOllErcOAstEr397: okay
rOllErcOAstEr397: but what about if the code wants to destroy a fang, and there isn't one?
Shattered Rift: Then tell it not to?
rOllErcOAstEr397: i think we should make it so, it just is used up
Shattered Rift: Since it's easier to code it without having it check, we'll just tell it to destroy either of the two, in the appropriate number, if present, rather than checking.
rOllErcOAstEr397: then my code above will work
Shattered Rift: Yes.
rOllErcOAstEr397: yay =D
rOllErcOAstEr397: XD
rOllErcOAstEr397: less coding for coaster!
rOllErcOAstEr397: (oh, save that code in the file)
Shattered Rift: Done.
rOllErcOAstEr397: =D
Shattered Rift: Fangs should just destroy a set amount?
Shattered Rift: Erm, nervermind, I'm making that a yes.
rOllErcOAstEr397: yea
rOllErcOAstEr397: but bigger against spectres
Shattered Rift: Werewolves get more Items, Spectres and Syndicate get neat things to do with their Items.
Shattered Rift: Should Fangs be relatively weak, or no?
Shattered Rift: Actually...
rOllErcOAstEr397: fangs should be.... dged to 40 agverage
rOllErcOAstEr397: **average
Shattered Rift: I'm lowering the destruction number done by Bullets by five on each count.
rOllErcOAstEr397: k
Shattered Rift: Make Fangs weaker than Bullets, but more accurate?
rOllErcOAstEr397: yea
rOllErcOAstEr397: that sounds good
Shattered Rift: So cost 25?
rOllErcOAstEr397: yea...
Shattered Rift: Destroy 30 vs regular/other Wolves, 20 vs Syndicate, and 45 vs Spectres?
Shattered Rift: With a 10% failure rate?
rOllErcOAstEr397: good
Shattered Rift signed off at 7:53:17 PM.
Shattered Rift signed on at 7:56:17 PM.
Shattered Rift: Sorry about that. What'd you say?
rOllErcOAstEr397: i said good XD
Shattered Rift: Good.
Shattered Rift: Now... a name for the Spectre Item...
rOllErcOAstEr397: hmmm
rOllErcOAstEr397: oh, high level specte item: Matrix Fragment
Shattered Rift: XD!
Shattered Rift: Sounds good.
Shattered Rift: Wait..
Shattered Rift: No, it doesn't work. Sparks themselves are fragments of the Matrix.
Shattered Rift: Though a Fragment from some stone could be a good name for a Werewolf Item...
rOllErcOAstEr397: aren't they dust though?
Shattered Rift: More or less... but still.
rOllErcOAstEr397: i was thinking a large fragment
Shattered Rift: Portable Matrices are more or less large fragments.
rOllErcOAstEr397: oh...
rOllErcOAstEr397: okay
rOllErcOAstEr397: XD
rOllErcOAstEr397: oh, i have a good image for the matrix =D
rOllErcOAstEr397 wants to directly connect.
Shattered Rift signed off at 8:01:53 PM.
Shattered Rift signed on at 8:03:49 PM.
Shattered Rift: Grr... why must Jared mess with the connection now?
rOllErcOAstEr397: crappy internet?
Shattered Rift: No, Jared just keeps messing with the box thingy...
rOllErcOAstEr397: lol
Shattered Rift: Anyway, steals 1 Silver Bullet?
Shattered Rift: (Mind you, Spectres can't use the Bullets.)
rOllErcOAstEr397: i have the perfect image for the matix
Shattered Rift: Yay!
rOllErcOAstEr397 wants to directly connect.
Shattered Rift is now directly connected.
rOllErcOAstEr397:
rOllErcOAstEr397: it's a PNG
Shattered Rift: It looks like a PS6, XD!
rOllErcOAstEr397:
Shattered Rift: Or at least, how I'd imagine one...
rOllErcOAstEr397: lol
Shattered Rift: 'tis perfect for the Portable Matrix, though. Well... not perfect, but darn close.
rOllErcOAstEr397: lol
rOllErcOAstEr397: it's a mac image =D
Shattered Rift: XD!
rOllErcOAstEr397: for iDisk
rOllErcOAstEr397: XD
rOllErcOAstEr397: i use it for my FTP
rOllErcOAstEr397: XD
Shattered Rift: XD!
rOllErcOAstEr397: have you seen my demented PC?
Shattered Rift: I saw it a while ago...
rOllErcOAstEr397: yea, i've made some changes...
rOllErcOAstEr397: changed the icons at the bottom
rOllErcOAstEr397: changed some program names
rOllErcOAstEr397: changed the cursor XD
Shattered Rift: Attempted to revamp your PC into a Mac, XD!
rOllErcOAstEr397: XD
rOllErcOAstEr397: yep
rOllErcOAstEr397: theres a new program coming out that will let me do that!
Shattered Rift: Anyway, Spectre Item: Costs 25, steals 15-35 base, 20-40 vs Syndicate, 15-30 vs Wolves, and a Silver Bullet if the person has one.
Shattered Rift: Sounds good or no?
rOllErcOAstEr397: good
rOllErcOAstEr397: http://www.cherryos.com/
Shattered Rift: Alright.
Shattered Rift: Heh.
Shattered Rift direct connection is closed.
